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  • #2521493
    Vranjes

    Hi
    I just created a site and installed GeneratePress plugin. Only classic editor and classic widget plugins are active. There are no posts, no pictures in the site, completely empty. But its speed test is bad. The result does not improve even if I disable those two plugins.

    Would you be willing to have a look? Below is login access to the site.

    There is no point of continuing in building the site, the issues will only become worse. I have seen this in several other sites with the same theme.
    Thanks in advance
    Jovo

    #2521632
    Leo
    Staff
    Customer Support

    Hi there,

    The performance looks good to me in a Lighthouse test:
    https://www.screencast.com/t/9wmODAmT

    When it comes to performance, all GP can do is make sure that the theme and premium plugin are optimized for performance and they are:
    https://generatepress.com/fastest-wordpress-theme/

    The quality of your hosting and server also play a big factors in performance as well.

    For example, your site is using the Marketer template, and here is the performance on our server with pictures and content:
    https://www.screencast.com/t/ljd82ayA

    Here is the direct link to the template if you want to run some tests: https://gpsites.co/marketer/

    Feel free to test any of our templates in the site library as well:
    https://generatepress.com/site-library/

    #2521852
    Vranjes

    Hi
    I do not understand what you are showing me in the first link. Please see what results I have for this empty site, they are completely different from your results, 3 out of 6 parameters are red:

    https://paste.pics/2341399167a50307dec252ccd57b1f50

    This is Google’s PageSpeed Insights for mobile test.

    If your test of my site is so great, then there is no point of mentioning possible hosting and server issues.

    I was testing every step when I was installing this site, and have screenshots showing this. Only after installing Marketer from site library, those numbers became red.

    So please use the same tool that I am using:

    https://pagespeed.web.dev/

    and test my empty site (link below) FOR MOBILE, and then compare with the screenshot which I gave above.
    Thanks

    #2521878
    peakminute

    I don’t know what is your hosting/server provider, but it does not even matter here.
    It’s not enough only to add a light theme these days for WordPress, you have to use caching plugin/minify CSS/HTML use GZIP/Brotli compression and other best practice to get better results than you have right now.

    #2521889
    Vranjes

    You are right, you do not know and it does not matter.

    What bets practices? This is a completely empty site shell.

    Why do not you read the thread first if you want to interrupt with such a nonsense? My question was directed to the GP team.

    #2521899
    peakminute

    Dude, chill. I’m trying to help you!
    Rather check out what is the problem with your website to get better speed test results.
    Yes, best practices for website optimization matters because it will affect how fast your website loads to users.
    https://paste.pics/5e0ddf7107a6971f7f8cabe138a06568

    #2522013
    David
    Staff
    Customer Support

    Vranjes, please respectful of other users and the support team.
    People are trying to assist.

    To get a better understanding of what a browser has to do to load your page, then use webpagetest to check your site.
    The waterfall report will give you a better insight. See here:

    https://www.webpagetest.org/result/230205_AiDc02_A4G/1/details/#waterfall_view_step1

    The initial request is taking around 1 second to complete, thats:

    700ms of that is the DNS lookup, connection and SSL Negotiation.

    300ms for the server ( WP ) to process the request and download the initial 8kb of data.

    So the biggest delay is finding and talking to your server*

    Once the browser has processed that data, it can make the rest of the requests.
    And those orange x marked resources are render blocking so must be loaded before any pixels are painted.

    On average for most of those resources, your server spends 5-6 times the amount of time processing the request as it takes for the data to download.

    *note his is a 4g simulation same as Pagespeed, some realworld connection time will vary.

    There is very little you can do about the network, but improvements could be made at server and via optimization.
    And ( thank you ) Mantas who makes some good points.

    To summarise:

    1. Improve server response time.
    Aside from better server / DNS lookups
    Enable HTTPs
    Enable Page Caching

    2. Elminate Render Blocking resources
    There are many optimization options available to do that.

    3. Reduce/eliminate 3rd party requests
    Load your google font locally.

    #2522085
    Vranjes

    Hi David,
    Leo was showing me Google speed test of my site from his side and it was apparently great (with my hosting and server), you can check his link above. Then he continued talking about possible hosting and server issues. Why talking about that if his test was showing great numbers?

    Why do not you check the Google PageSpeed Insights test for mobile from your side? This is a simple request.

    The problem is in your theme and I have a simple proof. Here is why:

    1. I was checking every step and making screenshots as I was establishing this site which is still completely empty.

    2. When the site was with your basic free theme, it passed all tests. Please see the screenshot here:

    https://paste.pics/c09d36ddb7b25d775164806b6a06fe35

    3. The moment I installed the premium theme from the site library, numbers become red. Here is the result:

    https://paste.pics/3ff1b38635bc817bb39e50ed91079f76

    Assuming that I am saying the truth, where do you see the hosting/server issue here? I guess you can find it, but I am not at your level and I shall not be able to understand it.

    4. You can test all this from your side, you have login access data given below again. It should be easy.

    5. If you are not willing, I can uninstall the GP plugin and start all again if you wish, and show you the numbers. I do not know if they will be similar. Would you be willing to follow my steps?

    #2522987
    David
    Staff
    Customer Support

    When you installed the Marketer site, it activated GP Premium modules and features that load additional resources:

    1. The Sticky Navigation loads jQuery
    2. The Navigation as Header loads the navigation branding CSS stylesheet.
    3. Featured Image positioning ( from Blog module ) adds an additional CSS stylesheet.
    4. Loading the Open Sans font via makes a font request via google font API.

    And those additional requests will impact the overall load time.

    Above i provided you a breakdown of how the site is loaded. And explanations on what causes delay and 3 points for improvement. I reiterate them here:

    1. Improve server response time.
    Aside from better server / DNS lookups
    Enable HTTPs
    Enable Page Caching

    2. Elminate Render Blocking resources
    There are many optimization options available to do that.

    3. Reduce/eliminate 3rd party requests
    Load your google font locally ( our use a system font ).

    I hope this gives you better understanding and what is required to improve your site speed.

    .

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